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SEP-28-05
3:21:51
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Forum: Serious Discussion for Christian Singles
RE: Dealing with Violence
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I am replying here only because I was addressed so directly. First, my previous comments were not intended to point at anyone. This is a topic I have seen discussed many places and many different directions -- and quite frankly it aggrevates me. I can only repeat what I said before. True, diet is a huge factor in physical and mental well being. However, there are conditions that are a direct result of chemical imbalances and diet will not help. There are people who enjoy sulking and feeling badly. There are also people so badly bruised by life they are unable to make a legitimate choice on their own for happiness. They need extra help outside of themselves. I remember a marriage counselor who kept a dummy hand grenade in his drawer. If a couple started arguing and wouldn't stop, one of his favorite tactics to end the argument was to pull out the dummy grenade and put it on his desk. If they still wouldn't stop, he would pull the pin and set it on the table between them. It always ended the argument. That qualifies as tough love. I also remember a friend who was seriously suicidal and arguing with her to keep her from committing suicide. I remember the grief and guilt I felt when she did manage to kill herself even while she was in the hospital. It was someone else's tough love that ended up pushing her over the edge. The person decided to shock her out of her depression, and it ended up being the final straw.
All I am saying is that we need to be cautious. Each person, each situation, is different. As a Christian, I dare not label another person.
And I shall say no more.
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SEP-16-05
19:13:49
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Forum: Serious Discussion for Christian Singles
RE: Dealing with Violence
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In response to AKgracealone on 14 Set-05
I was one of those people who thought he didn't have the capacity to choose happines or to love as far as that goes. Everyone has the capacity, some just have to dig deeper to find it as I did. Everything in my life was going sour. My only hope was to choose happiness or I was facing a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The reason we have chemical imbalances is from poor diet. Poor diet is responsible for nearly all illnesses and disease. Crazy as it sounds, there are some peole who enjoy being miserable. It's there old friend, because they don't know how to enjoy what little they have. They like it (misery), because it is a known feeling and have learned to embrace it for trying something new involves risk. So, to coninue to sulk is a security blanket. I had an aquantance who said they wanted to die. If they had a gun they would shoot themselves. I tested him. I got one of my guns, unloaded of course and slammed it on the table.
I said, there you go, you wanna die, but please go outside to do it. I said I don't want to clean up blood and pick bone and teeth fragments out of the wall. He looked at me in shock. I said again, there you go, you said if you had a gun, you'd kill yourself. He wouldn't even touch the gun. I said to him, you don't want to die, you just want things to change. Isn't that right. he said yes. I called his bluff. And yes the gun was indeed unloaded. I am not that stupid to hand a suicidal person a loaded gun. He finally realized that life was worth living even though it is tough. Sometimes you have to use tough love to reach somebody. I have lost two people who I cared about to suicide, one was a buddy when I was 18 or 19 and lady who I loved dearly. I helped clean up the mess of my old buddy. It was the toughest thing I ever have done. I picked bone and teeth out of the plaster in an apartment is Tulsa Oklahoma. I was a new Christian then and he was a good dude. He'd give you shirt off his back if you needed it. I was a terrible friend, becasue I didn't take him seriously. No, I wan't a friend at all. friends don't let friends go through things like that alone. I said, hey man, rebuke that devil in the name of Jesus. He said the devil was telling him to kill himself, because he was worthless. It brings tears to my eyes as I write this knowing if I had done or said something differently, he'd still be alive. Both my friend, Steve and Shaine, her nick name, Anita, her real name checked out early and then leaves everyone else with the pain and grief. Steve knew the Lord, I hope he's there in the Kingdom with me. Anita, was a Jew and I never told her about Jesus, she is lost. Her blood is on my hands and on Judgement Day, I'll have to give account for that.
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SEP-14-05
2:4:30
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Forum: Serious Discussion for Christian Singles
RE: Dealing with Violence
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One precautionary comment with violence, dysfunction and how people deal with it. I can understand the place of faith and trusting God in cases of violence and mental health issues.
HOWEVER -- we need to be careful of labeling either direction. Happiness is a choice, but there are also people so horribly bruised by life they don't have the capacity to make a decision for happiness. And there are also people, even Christians, who have a proven metabolic imbalance that requires the use of medication. One dear Christian I know is manic/depressive and her son is schizophrenic. If it weren't for medication and serious counseling both of them would be unable to function on a daily basis.
True, modern medicine can over medicate and make the problem worse. People often take "the little purple pill" rather than deal with the issues. But we must be cautious. God does heal, but what about the times He does not? I can name one person who was healed of inoperable cancer, while a young woman with a full scholarship died. Did one trust God more than the other and that is why one lived and the other died? Everyone who knew the young woman, including me, says her peace as she faced death was a remarkable display of God's love.
I have struggled with that same question concerning mental health. I was able to avoid pills and mental institutions largely because of the counselors I worked with. I walked out on one "Christian" counselor who was more interested in statistics and money than he was seriously helping -- and got more honest help from a lesbian who was willing to help me keep my faith.
I have avoided medication, but I dare not tell someone else they would be showing a lack of faith if they did other wise. A friend who's life was a breeze compared to mine has serious battles with depression. I made her promise she would go back on her medication because I saw her starting to go into a tail spin without it. I would be a hypocrite to expect her to walk the path I did. And a good Christian counselor never hurt anyone. We must be cautious in how we approach this subject. If there is more than one way good way to treat a physical illness, why is it so hard to believe there is more than one legitimate way to treat mental issues?
As the saying goes, "One man's medicine is another man's poisen." That is also true with human psychology.
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SEP-14-05
1:26:36
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Forum: Serious Discussion for Christian Singles
Divorce
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In reading the posts about divorce, I have to ask myself, doesn't anyone read their Bibles thoroghly (spelling?)? I have to say no. We cannot add reasons to the Bible to justify a divorce. Remarriage is allowed for only two reasons and two reasons only. That being the death of the spouse and adultry. That's it, nothing else. If you are in a violent situation, theres no law keeping you from leaving. No matter what the trouble is, your first goal should be reconciling that marriage. Remeber, the vows, "until death do us part" and "for better of for worse". Since marriage was santified at creation, all marriages are santified, even you were not Christians at the time. How can anyone say to the contrary of Scripture? Yes, we can be forgiven for the confessed sins we have committed. That is what the Gospel is all about! There is nowhere in Scripture that says we don't have to suffer the consequences of those sins. The Lord cannot and will not honor any marriage that not in line with Scripture. The God of the Old testament is the same God of the New. The Laws are the same in both. I am very thankful that I am not married. I came close a few times and if I have, I most likely would be divorced. It is a chilling thought that I would have to be single for the rest of my life. My sister divorced her second husband, because he bought a boat without her consent. How stupid is that? She is working on number three, now. In this country, people take the easy way out all too often. Sure, divorce is a lot easier than working out the difficulties. How many divorcees took the time to think how happy they could be if they had invested more knee time and effort to make things right. Restoration is the Lord's Specialty. You and I should take avantage of that. Restoration is one of my favorite words. To restore, wow, that is awsome, isn't it? Now that i have covered restoration, what about those henious crimes? Assault, child molestings, cheaters and bringing children into this world with someone other than your wife? What about the person who fell back into doing dope? What about the inconsiderate dolt who thinks of nobody but himself? The Lord can surely forgive them all if they confess. Why can't we do the same? Many people divorse out of spite and hatred. Those folks have an unforgiving heart. Do you remember what the Lord says about those who won't forgive others who have wronged them? Well in case you forgot, your sins won't be forgiven, either. It's not, because He can't. Like Martin Luther way back 500 years ago said, we are justifed by faith and if we have an unforgiving heart, we are not justified. Wow, that is a chilling staement. It means we have to keep in check our every thought, our every action, our every motive. My whole point is all divorces can be prevented. If you give it your all, many more divorces would never happen. And dare I say that all divorces are not "one sided". Both are at fault to some extent. To those who are contemplating remarriage from divorce, if you don't resolve the issues from your prior marriage 100%, your next marriage will start off on the wrong foot. Who wants that? I wouldn't think anyone would. Lastly, because you feel confident that you are OK to remarry doesn't make it so. Find Scripture that backs it up and think about if you are stretching the Scripture to make it say what you want it to. I'm sure the last thing you want to do is be in violation of The Word of God.
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SEP-10-05
21:36:21
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Forum: Serious Discussion for Christian Singles
RE: Dealing with Violence
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AsaRose
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I deeply agree JIMinCAL, we must be willing to follow Jesus. There is no other peace like the true peace and comfort found in the Lord. When we learn to put aside our differences and help each other, we'll see a change in this world, when we learn to deal with our problems instead of running from our problems, we'll see a change in our lives and when we learn to give all our troubles to our Heavenly Father, we'll understand what unconditional love means.
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